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bennyandthejets · Jan 25, 2012, 08:12 AM // 08:12

Yeah I don't think this will have to much of a impact on the economy. I think the majority of the players that were/are interested in completing their HoM have already done so or are very close.

Iuris · Jan 25, 2012, 10:39 AM // 10:39

The spike has already occured a long time ago - when the HoM criteria were shown. The prices have by now already stabilized.

Also, I can't speak for the whole player base, but in my guild, most have already got as far with the HoM as they intend to.

drowze · Jan 25, 2012, 12:45 PM // 12:45

I have to agree with some (if not most) of the above posters: the craze has passed. I'd be surprised if minis/hero armor will rise in prices; destroyer/oppressor/tormented weapon prices have been stable for a long time, after they went up in price when the HoM was revealed; and most people who are working towards gwamm or 50/50 usually have enough money lying around to not be affected much... actually I'm surprised by any economy fluctuations these days, like the recent rise in shard/ecto prices. Off topic, but what's up with that ><

Mireles · Jan 25, 2012, 03:41 PM // 15:41

The economic distortion for HoM rewards already happened....

The day it came out rubies and sapphires jumped form 4k/ea to 12k/ea..... it was a very nice gravy train... and the price of minis went up especially common class minis... Arms went up a little, war supplies did not see much of a price change..... Hero Armors went up as they became more in demand....

Don't expect more change in the economy for the cause of HoM and guild wars 2, people have had the ability to work on them since it came out, the biggest change always happen when it just became available and was not known before hand by the majority of people...

The only thing you can expect.. is the price of ectos, keys, and maybe shards to go up as here are less people speed clearing and exploiting pvp.... the rest of the items will remain relatively the same as they are not produced on a farming based scale to keep up with demand.

Daesu · Jan 25, 2012, 04:31 PM // 16:31

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Originally Posted by Iuris

Also, I can't speak for the whole player base, but in my guild, most have already got as far with the HoM as they intend to.

I guess that means I am in the minority then. Even though I have been playing this game for a long time, I have been spending my time experimenting on hero builds and other challenges in the game that don't necessarily work towards the HoM (e.g. HM Titan quests and WoC quests).

I also hated trading but I needed to trade in order to work towards 50/50, so I have been doing more trading lately. If you don't trade actively and you spend most of your time actually playing the game, you tend to move along slower since most of the HoM points can be obtained quickly through trading.

Silmar Alech · Jan 25, 2012, 05:19 PM // 17:19

Have you checked the prices at the rune trader/material traders recently? For the last few weeks, prices started to increase very slowly after being somewhat stable for the last year.

There was a time where most of the runes cost only 100g - now even Ranger runes increased in price. Rune of superior vigour 30k: I never saw a higher price since I started GW (4.5 years ago). Crafting materials: the materials used for consets, resurrection scrolls and popular armour increased as well. Ectos rose to 10-11k, Obsidian shards 5.5k and above, after relatively stable prices of 9-9.5k/4k for a year. Sapphires/Rubies/Diamonds as well.

I assume more and more farmers+speed clearers leave the game due to boredom, so supply decreases and prices increase. The hall of monuments and arrival of GW2 may also play a role, but I don't think the most important one.

jazilla · Jan 25, 2012, 05:40 PM // 17:40

IDK really. I remember when mini pet prices were through the roof and they have since come down in price tremendously. Most people that care about that kind of thing are done. Maybe there will be an in flux of new people that want to see the game at least because they are interested in GW2, but I don't think that number will be significant. GW1 has a pretty stable market.

chaney · Jan 25, 2012, 11:16 PM // 23:16

Most of you seem to be assuming that everyone is actually planning to leave GW1 and go to GW2. This is an invalid assumption on your part. I for one have no intention of ever going to GW2. I was very excited about it when Anet started hyping it a while back but with the revelations they have released I have lost complete interest in ever playing GW2.

Anet has completely ruined GW2 wiith too much technology (guns? really? in a fantasy game), silly new class professions (can anyone say engineer?), and rumors of changing the way players interface with the game (movement only with keyboard). GW2 is going to be a huge flop and a major disappointment.

No, some of us will simply stick to what works and continue playing GW1.

fireflyry · Jan 26, 2012, 12:55 AM // 00:55

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Originally Posted by Mintha Syl

what you don't take into account here is that many don't care about HoM, and so you can't count everybody who doesn't have it full as people putting lot of money into economy to buy stuff to fill it.

I tend to agree with this.

People who wanted it full have already maxed it...a looooonnnnng time ago, the rest aren't really bothered.The subset of new players who are only now working through it or players who may change their priorities with GW2 getting closer is imo so tiny as to have minimal, if any, effect on the market.

I don't see such "rewards" having any relevance after the first few months of play anyway.If you can't see it as being as little more than a simplistic sales technique to keep the game active and players grinding....well....yeah.

Each to their own

Kunder · Jan 26, 2012, 01:21 AM // 01:21

You also have to consider that as soon as GW2 comes out GW1 stuff becomes a lot less important. Having 10 stacks of ectos in a game which almost no one plays anymore and which is getting no new high end items to buy is worthless.

Prices may even go down. Imagine all of the current 50/50 HoM players who haven't touched the game for a year or two. They could easily return and flood the market with items as they sell or give away most of what they have before starting GW2.

Daesu · Jan 26, 2012, 06:45 AM // 06:45

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Originally Posted by Kunder

Prices may even go down. Imagine all of the current 50/50 HoM players who haven't touched the game for a year or two. They could easily return and flood the market with items as they sell or give away most of what they have before starting GW2.

I can understand that prices may go down after GW2 is released. But just before GW2 is released, there may be some panic buying when people would be more free with spending their stashed gold if they have no longer term plans for them.

I think asking the people in this forum about the status of HoM may give a skewed response since I expect most people here to be relatively hardcore in trading and playing the game.

When I talked to many of the players in Gtob who do not have a 50/50 HoM yet, seems they are still working on it. To many of them coming up with the ectos and shards needed to buy an obby armor is almost an impossible dream. To many casual players, maxing HoM is going to take a very long time.

Some of them are only going for 30/50 and they are still working towards that because they hate grinding and standing in kamandan shouting prices when they can be playing the game instead.

cormac ap dunn · Jan 26, 2012, 06:53 AM // 06:53

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Originally Posted by Daesu

When I talked to many of the players in Gtob who do not have a 50/50 HoM yet

Not the best place to gauge...well... anything

Kada · Jan 26, 2012, 07:05 AM // 07:05

I don't have my whole HoM yet, I'm about 70% through it. That said, I'm not trying particularly hard or with any sense of urgency - I'm just playing the game and letting the HoM fill itself. Everyone I've spoken to in game chat has roughly the same opinion so I don't know where this whole 'zomg the world will end if my HoM isn't full before GW2 needs moar cash!' urgency thing comes from?

From what ANet has said, they were very specific about these being SKINS ONLY. They weren't going to put new players in a position where they were disadvantaged and would potentially quit immediately after starting if they were surrounded by people kitted out in uber gear they could never get the same stats for themselves.

The ANet blog also mentioned that in GW2 gear will scale in power with level, so you won't have 50/50 HoM people walking around with max gear immediately that makes levelling a cakewalk, they will only be at max for their current level.

Daesu · Jan 26, 2012, 07:48 AM // 07:48

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Originally Posted by Kada

Everyone I've spoken to in game chat has roughly the same opinion so I don't know where this whole 'zomg the world will end if my HoM isn't full before GW2 needs moar cash!' urgency thing comes from?

Even if it is not an urgency for some, still if you are moving from GW1 to GW2 soon enough, then you probably have no long term plans for your GW1 gold. If you can upgrade to a better skin from your default starter gear with only a few plats from GW1, why not?

Kada · Jan 26, 2012, 08:24 AM // 08:24

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Originally Posted by Daesu

Even if it is not an urgency for some, still if you are moving from GW1 to GW2 soon enough, then you probably have no long term plans for your GW1 gold. If you can upgrade to a better skin from your default starter gear with only a few plats from GW1, why not?

Alternatively I could wait until GW1 turns into a graveyard and people are desperate enough to lower their prices to something a bit more reasonable before I finish off my HoM with some of the more expensive pieces

fireflyry · Jan 26, 2012, 08:36 AM // 08:36

The biggest bonus I've heard of from guildies and friends in terms of transition from GW1 to GW2 is the ability to retain character name which I agree with in the hope I can bump into some old friends who left GW1 a long time ago.

Seriously, what relevance will that skin, reward, etc have after 2-3 months.So you can stand around with a "I grinded GW1 to death" hat?Sure it's all hypothesis but unless it's some uber cool aesthetic or gear that cant be surpassed by playing GW2 for a few weeks nobody will care for long.

I may be in the minority but I struggle to see the relevance of hundreds and hundreds of hours of grind only to look "uber" or "special" for a few months.

I hope I'm wrong but I'm thinking the HoM relevance and rewards will be a initial buzz for the vets and grinders but a big disappointment for most after a few weeks.

Each to their own.

**cosyfiep** · Jan 26, 2012, 10:13 AM // 10:13

when they release the actual date there will be the last big push for those who are going over to gw2 to get the last few whatevers for the HoM....that said, holidays do just about the same thing---prices go up for the holiday (and right before and after) then settle down.....
would be nice if the cost of ectos dropped with the release of gw2--might actually get fow armor then!!

2-3 months after the release most people wont care what reward you got from gw1 as (I am assuming) gw2 rewards should be going strong by then--titles, 'leet gear, etc.

Gabs88 · Jan 26, 2012, 10:57 AM // 10:57

Ectos are gonna crash, they're completely overfarmed. People have multiple stacks of them as currency and when they quit game they have little need for it. So they will sell them off to buy simpler stuff such as consets or other armors they need.

Shards will spike, people generally don't keep these around but sell them to trader. Therefore price is around the value ectos should be at.

(PS, shards going up and ectos dramatically dropping is something we've often seen before!)

Zkeys will go up because people who previously farmed their own will now buy for title.

Rubies and Sapphires are allready in short demand and NOT farmable. Hence they will go up. This is actually a very safe way to keep currency as their value is far more stable then ectos.

Hero armors are very easily farmable. Demand will go up but not prices. Resulting in a faster market which is good.

Armbraces will stay stable, or even drop. People keep these for their currency value more then anything at this point.

Destroyer and Opressor weapons will likely spike.

Sweets, Alcohol and Party will stay stable. But many people will also buy directly from shops for their remaining points.

Elite skill tomes I think will stay stable.

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Originally Posted by cosyfiep

2-3 months after the release most people wont care what reward you got from gw1 as (I am assuming) gw2 rewards should be going strong by then--titles, 'leet gear, etc.

God Walking Among Mere Mortals

I mean, it sounds pretty darn badass does it not? Also minipets and Ranger pets will be popular.

Iuris · Jan 26, 2012, 02:29 PM // 14:29

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Originally Posted by Gabs88

God Walking Among Mere Mortals

I mean, it sounds pretty darn badass does it not? Also minipets and Ranger pets will be popular.

Since so many of us have it, I don't think it will be all that impressive. Me, I'm looking forward to my little Raccoon, most of all

zwei2stein · Jan 26, 2012, 03:07 PM // 15:07

More intereting thing to contemplate would be fate of "high end items" that do not contribute to HoM/GWAMM at all.

For example BDS, Frog scepters, etc...

Value drop can be expected as people will try to pawn then to fund statues and titles. How fast thou? Will they eventually be just merched, or will people still pay 5k to look cool while grinding various points?